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Old 05-02-2010, 17:24   #11
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I wouldn't even think about sending them my E-Mail adress.
I was supposed to send them an e-mail directly to Cory Welles e-mail account.

Does anyone know if Cory Welles or some other staff member has an account here?
I know Alex Roy has but the last time he was here I think is ages ago.
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Old 05-02-2010, 17:42   #12
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Hi, Cory here, Director of 32:07; David Maher sent me this thread and I just wanted to comment and hopefully shed some light on this discussion.

Let's start at the top. In November I posted on FB that we were reviewing the latest cut of the film; the day after Thanksgiving I flew to NY to meet with Alex. We realized there were a few things not working with the cut and set a plan to fix them (this is what screenings are for.)

The web site has not been updated lately but that's only because I have to hire someone to do it. The guy who handles our site is in NYC and it's a hell of a lot quicker, easier and cheaper if I just post on facebook. I should probably put something on the web site that encourages people to go to FB for the time being.

Honda Rox posted a very important point; he wrote: "I dont think that they can make a "great" movie from a person driving coast to coast fast, with police lights, a shitload of GPS devices and a plane. This sort of movie will never appeal to the general public, and theres just so much you can do to this kind of footage."

BINGO! Someone finally gets it! My film has always been aimed at the general public, the ones who don't even know the Cannonball existed. The story begins and ends with the guys who ran the race almost 30 years ago. The trailer still says it all. Alex and the modern runs are a part of the film but combining the 2 stories, old and new, is a very tricky and difficult task. We have close to 800 hours of footage, multiple characters and decades spanning between the events. The film cannot just be the modern runs as Honda Rox said. I am making a film for the general public, those who still have no idea that Cannonballs really existed.

Now, in regards to the post by Turboman, who is upset he didn't get a comment or a thank you back on FB. I am really sorry about that oversight, that was my fault. But let's be clear, there is no public relations firm working for us! I am your public relations. It's only me. I sometimes get overwhelmed and miss commenting on everything and for that I am truly sorry. The venue in Germany looks amazing and I would love to screen there.

I don't know know what to say to Gizmo. I think I made it clear that there are no businessmen here, and asking people for their input on where they want to see the film is not "stupid." But thanks for letting me know you're going to steal my film and that you think I'm an ignorant bastard.

Clearly the lack of specifics on this film is causing major scorn. But for every post I see about how I'm not posting enough, I get just as many who say "stop posting until you finish the film." So, if you want to know something, write to me: cory@gravidfilms.com
But please try and keep the insults to a minimum. Technically, I don't think a girl can be called a bastard...
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Old 05-02-2010, 18:43   #13
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I highly appreciate your answer here and on my mail account.

The main issue for me was that I thought you have some PR firm that manages all the PR on facebook and your official 32h7min website. And I thought it isn't very polite from them not to hear a word from the HQ when I make a suggestion.
Let's be honest everyone is happy when he receives a thanks for a hint.
On the other hand I now feel a bit sorry that because of my post here, you was confronted with let's say "hate".

I also understand that you want to make a great documentary that's why I waited so long and will wait until it's finished. For me a long time it was not clear that it'll be a documentary for more people than car and road rally enthusiasts.

I hope for you and for us that the documentary will be a great success!!!
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Old 05-02-2010, 20:20   #14
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Hey Cory, it's Brent here...

It's an interesting string, and I cringe at reading the insults sent your way. A few surely had no idea that you were driving this project solo, and don't see the big picture story in what you are working on.

Many modern protests are literally sit down in large numbers to create a blockade large enough that news media arrives to film their arrests. In contrast, the early Cannonballer’s were motivated to drive, in protest, to make their point against the government imposed 55MPH speed limit across our country etc.

Those on GTSpirit certainly like driving fast, and I would guess nobody in here has the virtue of patience in their character, but hope they can at least respect the 3104 run for resurrecting the story of the early driving heroes, and showing how complex it is to even attempt in a modern-day setting. The story is not a typical “movie”, but is a fascinating one for film nonetheless, and I patiently look forward to hearing each driver’s story.
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Old 05-02-2010, 20:27   #15
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BINGO! Someone finally gets it! My film has always been aimed at the general public, the ones who don't even know the Cannonball existed.
I have never seen an automotive movie that was made to appeal to the general public actually catch the public's attention in any real sort. The Truth in 24 might have been made to appeal to the general public but my non-car crazy roommates who I made sit through it the night it appeared on ESPN, hated it. I happen to love that film and downloaded it immediately on my iPod, but I am a car nut. Car movies that are made to appeal to the general public do NOT do well. As the real story is lost

I never heard people say they just wanted the run of Alex Roy and I would like a mixture of both in a time phase. Intro with some explaination of the event, planning videos from the 1983 run, then planning from Alex and nice back in forth with both the old guys and alex telling interesting stories which occured along the way.

I will admit I have no background in film at all but that is just how I invisioned the film. I thought this was going to be a film for car guys. The General Public will NOT appreciate this story. If you want proof read the Wired Magazine article comments from alex's run. Majority all said he was extremely stupid.
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Old 05-02-2010, 20:34   #16
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Dear Cory,
thanks for the job you did, you do and you will do.
Understand us, we are fans and we wait for this movie like Trekkies wait for the next Star Trek. I (and we ) can understand how create the movie could be hard and time run fast.
Thanks to take some of your time to light our candle.
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Old 05-02-2010, 22:27   #17
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I have never seen an automotive movie that was made to appeal to the general public actually catch the public's attention in any real sort. The Truth in 24 might have been made to appeal to the general public but my non-car crazy roommates who I made sit through it the night it appeared on ESPN, hated it. I happen to love that film and downloaded it immediately on my iPod, but I am a car nut. Car movies that are made to appeal to the general public do NOT do well. As the real story is lost

I never heard people say they just wanted the run of Alex Roy and I would like a mixture of both in a time phase. Intro with some explaination of the event, planning videos from the 1983 run, then planning from Alex and nice back in forth with both the old guys and alex telling interesting stories which occured along the way.

I will admit I have no background in film at all but that is just how I invisioned the film. I thought this was going to be a film for car guys. The General Public will NOT appreciate this story. If you want proof read the Wired Magazine article comments from alex's run. Majority all said he was extremely stupid.
Rob,

when you say automotive movie I am assuming you mean automotive documentary because there are plenty automotive themed movies that have been huge successes.

that being said I agree with you the general public does not care for automotive documentaries. documentaries by their nature are geared to a particular audience. if someone has no interest in a topic they are not going to watch a documentary about it. would I or anyone here watch a documentary about needlepoint? even if it was geared towards the "general public"? he!! no so why make a needlepoint film for the "general public"? why make a automotive film for the "general public"? its pointless the "general public" won't watch it and you will tic off the real audience with a "dumded down" documentary.

making documentaries for the "general public" got us the annoying reality TV shows, please don't turn this movie in to something for the "general public"

if you must make a movie for all to watch at least release a "hard core" version for those of us who want to see it all.
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Needle Point, Lugnuts? Is that the best you could do? 'Dog Town and Z Boys' was about skate boarding, I don't skate but loved it, watched it in the theatre and own a copy that I view over and over. Same with 'Step Into Liquid,' I'm not a surfer but that movie was well done. And it was not a prerequisite to have mastered Donkey Kong in order to love 'King of Kong.' The hard core niche fans of each film loved them too AND they crossed over. Mad Hot Ballroom was kids dancing, Spellbound was about a spelling bee, and I quote from a review, "Who would have imagined that a documentary about a spelling bee could hold all the intrigue and drama of an SEC football game?"
It's about telling a great story AND delivering to your core audience. As Brent said on Faceboook today, I didn't get into that M5 and risk life and limb to make a watered down version. I was merely informing 'Honda Rox' that no, this film is not made up of an hour and a half in the M5, which might have interested some of you, but no one else.
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this film is not made up of an hour and a half in the M5, which might have interested some of you, but no one else.
Whoever expected a film to be that never saw the trailer. The trailer started with the 1983 run and should focus on it. Alex went to try and see if it is still possible. Before alex announced his big news about breaking the record I was excited for the film but now i expect that there is at least some footage of the person who proved the impossible possible not the only focus as that is hardly entertaining

I have seen the current trailer so many times i lost count and if the trailer bares any relation to the feature film you are working on I will enjoy the film.

Alot of the issue is you are having is you mistakenly use to say in one month final edit and then we come back to find out you edited totally again. People are itching to see your film and they aren't getting younger they are getting older
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Hi, Cory here, Director of 32:07; David Maher sent me this thread and I just wanted to comment and hopefully shed some light on this discussion.

Let's start at the top. In November I posted on FB that we were reviewing the latest cut of the film; the day after Thanksgiving I flew to NY to meet with Alex. We realized there were a few things not working with the cut and set a plan to fix them (this is what screenings are for.)

The web site has not been updated lately but that's only because I have to hire someone to do it. The guy who handles our site is in NYC and it's a hell of a lot quicker, easier and cheaper if I just post on facebook. I should probably put something on the web site that encourages people to go to FB for the time being.

Honda Rox posted a very important point; he wrote: "I dont think that they can make a "great" movie from a person driving coast to coast fast, with police lights, a shitload of GPS devices and a plane. This sort of movie will never appeal to the general public, and theres just so much you can do to this kind of footage."

BINGO! Someone finally gets it! My film has always been aimed at the general public, the ones who don't even know the Cannonball existed. The story begins and ends with the guys who ran the race almost 30 years ago. The trailer still says it all. Alex and the modern runs are a part of the film but combining the 2 stories, old and new, is a very tricky and difficult task. We have close to 800 hours of footage, multiple characters and decades spanning between the events. The film cannot just be the modern runs as Honda Rox said. I am making a film for the general public, those who still have no idea that Cannonballs really existed.

Now, in regards to the post by Turboman, who is upset he didn't get a comment or a thank you back on FB. I am really sorry about that oversight, that was my fault. But let's be clear, there is no public relations firm working for us! I am your public relations. It's only me. I sometimes get overwhelmed and miss commenting on everything and for that I am truly sorry. The venue in Germany looks amazing and I would love to screen there.

I don't know know what to say to Gizmo. I think I made it clear that there are no businessmen here, and asking people for their input on where they want to see the film is not "stupid." But thanks for letting me know you're going to steal my film and that you think I'm an ignorant bastard.

Clearly the lack of specifics on this film is causing major scorn. But for every post I see about how I'm not posting enough, I get just as many who say "stop posting until you finish the film." So, if you want to know something, write to me: cory@gravidfilms.com
But please try and keep the insults to a minimum. Technically, I don't think a girl can be called a bastard...
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Thanks for the clarification Cory. I've been waiting for this movie since I first saw the trailer, before your run.

When I was little me and my best friend watched the Cannonball, Gumball, Smokey and the bandit movies all the time. After it we always talked about cars, how to get away from cops etc. These movies still touches me even if I think American Grafitti, Two-lane blacktop and Vanishing point are better movies today. I think this movie will also be a huge success.

That you want this movie for the general public I can understand. I must admit even if I love it and has read it many times I would have wanted Alex book to be more detailed. For me I've for example watched Alex run from NYC to Miami in 3% speed allot of times. I like to drive and what you have done is something I've huge respect for. So hoping that you will add allot of driving footage as extra material.

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